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network of

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personas it's not the right word

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yeah definitely

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the persona is the people that it's us

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it's completely screwed up i don't know

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why i wrote that and then everybody else

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listening to ir and thank you so much

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for tuning in this week as always i have

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ceo and founder of truthfunders.com mark

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schwartz he is here with me via uh

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technology over in the bay area just

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there hi how are you doing tonight art

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doing very well mr schwartz how are you

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this week i'm doing well as well just uh

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here in the bat cave in northern

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california surrounded by my um geeky

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garbage pail kids star trek star wars

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and other knick-knacks on my desk tron i

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just got a new tron action figure you

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know they just announced tron 3

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yesterday like it's going to start

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filming it uh

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october i think it says are you serious

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yeah tron 3's filming this this year it

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would actually be tron too i guess

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what are you talking about it's the

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third one there's three there's two that

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already exist mark we're not getting i'm

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not gonna fight with you about this time

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yeah yeah but then you know they sort of

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remade the first well i guess they

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didn't it was sort of a second one it

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was absolutely you continue yeah it was

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you're right you're right

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you know i love laser tag and i love

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tron and whenever i play laser tag i

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you know what i love i love the the

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truth thunders i love you and i love our

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listeners by the way i want to give out

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the phone number

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uh 888-919-2355

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is the telephone number anytime if you

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want to dial us up and hop on feel free

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it's going to be it's cool if you did

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let's talk to mark and i about uh truth

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thunders coming up on the show tonight

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we have somebody that is uh you might

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know his name might have seen it around

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the block once or twice if you are a

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anglo very white i would imagine living

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in los angeles south of the border it's

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even ice cream to see that's the thing

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i live in northern california um

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if you were it's people say no it's

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mount diablo and as the people say no

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it's mount diablo and there's just this

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big and i don't think either one is the

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one nine two three five five is it mount

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diablo or mount diablo

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it's got to be mount diablo

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mount diablo nothing about it i know

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nothing about it so you are the

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his project over at truthfunders.com you

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can go check that out right now at

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truthfunders.com is on the homepage mark

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it is it's on the very front page go to

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truthfunders.com scroll down a little

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bit and it's our main highlighted

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rods they live in the skies i'm sure

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everybody listening to this program not

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maybe not everybody but the majority of

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uh our fine listeners have probably been

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familiarized with the rod's story or

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concept at one point or another

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over the course of their lives because

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jose has been around doing this for a

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jose back in the art bell days

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of the height of the aol time so you

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an aol address too yes yes i know you're

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one of the only people i know that still

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point as well it's become cool again

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drinking perhaps blue ribbon we're in

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plaid you get a nokia phone it's a new

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thing absolutely it's the uh the thrift

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about that about that time that uh that

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really incredible and and what i'm going

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to talk to him about today and what i'm

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he has new footage um he's been

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changes of technology and now we have we

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how that's affected rods you know it's

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up something else a news story that i

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with what you're talking about new types

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there's a brand new video that just came

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truth funders facebook page yes it is

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go to facebook and type in truth funders

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uh you will find our facebook page go

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ahead and like it if you would and uh we

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have all sorts of cool news and projects

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we have on there but it's the the main

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like screwed up over it nobody can

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figure out what the hell is going on

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it's only nine seconds i mean the clip

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think about it um because i have my

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hold on let me watch it one more time

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here i'm watching it over and over again

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say so what's your theory uh

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i'd like to hear what you think about it

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i think it's another drone

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much more advanced drone technology that

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nobody really knows about yet is having

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you know been out there and tested and i

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the shape of it um i've i've had

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space man or aliens or or what but i've

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seen much wilder things in this video

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craft in the sky and maybe it was some

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sort of government test craft or

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whatever it was definitely real it was

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the middle of the day just like this

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this particular craft that's in this

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you know i am skeptical of this video

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just because of of the simple fact of um

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you know this thing is going so fast

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i don't believe that anybody filming

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quick as as this thing it's almost like

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they're anticipating it exactly i see

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what you're saying

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because of that alone i think that

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someone went up there and filmed some

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stuff and then just kind of move the

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cgi'd as as they like to do and and put

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uh i don't know it's still you know it

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analyzed people will go on youtube and

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uh put it in different colors and make

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it frame by frame and try to dissect it

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so i don't know message boards

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discussing it and they're looking at the

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you're absolutely right i think that the

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fact that it did follow right along with

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the camera that's something i didn't

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even consider clearly you are far more

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experienced in viewing ufo videos and

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coming up with what could possibly

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possibly be going on

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well it's not even that i'd say i'd say

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it's just from the production background

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i mean

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someone asked last week how he met and

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it was through for for years i was

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a producer a video producer

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for tel online television content and

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making interactive

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video applications and i don't know if

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the listeners know this but i was

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nominated for a prime time emmy um

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for

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a tv show on fox that i made an

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application for so i've been working

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sort of in that industry and i love

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filming i love going out to a site and

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and capturing things editing them being

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in charge of all that it was it was

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great

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um and i still do it so when i look at

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these videos i see them with a different

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eye than i think a lot of people do um

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only because i sort of know how it's all

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put together it's the same thing with

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watching the news when i watch the news

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it's not like you know a lot of people

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just take what they see and they absorb

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it and i look at it like oh that was

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editing oh that was b-roll oh that was

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totally hacked together

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horribly

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i kind of look at it with a different

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different perspective um so yeah so it's

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thanks thank you for letting me share

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that perspective though of that moving

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camera i mean i that's that's what i

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think that's again you can go to the

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truth funders facebook page at

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facebook.com truthfunders and you can do

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this whacked out fake video for yourself

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accordingly but it could be real we

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don't know no we don't know obviously

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but i think that you will probably agree

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with mark that's just my opinion anyway

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it doesn't really matter it's just my

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opinion um you're listening to truth

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funders radio my name is art webb again

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we have the very very very interesting

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he's coming up in just a couple minutes

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here uh and if you want to

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have a conversation with jose yourself i

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also encourage you to call in to the

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888-919-235 5. i do want to take one

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more moment here and very quickly thank

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all of the people that went to truth

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funders after last week's show and

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donated to jessie marcel's i-beam

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project it is uh it's really cool it's

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awesome to do the show and then to see

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it actually working

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yeah and going to check it out it's it's

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so exciting you know i talked to jesse

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this week um we had the show it was our

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first show and we were so lucky to get

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jesse to come on and be a guest for our

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first show and it was just it was great

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while we sat here talking about the

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project

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we saw as people donated to it and that

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is really what we want to do we're here

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to help

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the people who are creating projects on

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truth funders we're here to help the

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world of the paranormal

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there's no one out there that's

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giving the paranormal a voice and

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letting them you know

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showcasing their projects the way they

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ought to be and kind of making this

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world

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go round uh it's up to us it's up to the

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this community to support each other and

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it's also up to that you know it takes a

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lot to create a project to come up with

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the idea uh to go ahead and if you work

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with us it's it's fairly easy because we

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do all the work for you for at least as

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far as you know building the project uh

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it's still up to you to do marketing but

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we we try to help support that and we're

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doing you know

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grows everything grows as well i think

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there will be many more opportunities

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for us absolutely different different

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levels of projects that sign up at truth

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funders in order to get their you know

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basically make their paranormal dream

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come true and the rest of the world

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because we're just gonna expose truth

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ultimately the one goal here with this

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show and with truth funders all together

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and uh us being partnered up with iran

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is we just want to expose truth truth is

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all we are after

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yeah because we deserve it we deserve it

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we all do

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and and so you know if you are out there

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i want you to get motivated and and know

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that you can do this you if maybe

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there's a ghost experience that you had

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and you are writing a book about it

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maybe you're looking for money to do

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research maybe you're looking for money

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to make a documentary about something

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contact us it's so it's so easy to reach

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out and contact us you just go to

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and you you go and click on create a

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project and in a couple of steps all you

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have to do you'll see a little form you

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write what you want to make or what you

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want to work on it could be a couple of

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sentences

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and you you know send it to us and and

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we get back to you now there are there

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are some people you know when when we do

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this kind of thing uh we do sift through

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things uh if if someone just says yeah i

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want money

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ideas just ideas that even you won't

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touch

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you out there

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absolutely you should do a show about

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that i mean we gotta get to um jose in a

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second here but i do want to talk more

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about that with you well absolutely that

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is interesting

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i will i let's do this let's create a

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segment um and we can even do it if we

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have enough time today but i will read

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you some of the

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ideas that people submit that are

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not

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a good examples of what we're looking

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for we're not going to name names or

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anything like that no never never be

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malicious about it but we just you know

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and it has nothing to do with us

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choosing something or not um

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it's just a matter of you know if if

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you're it's like applying for a job if

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you have a great idea you want to make

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it look good and you want to present it

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you don't want to

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have it be half of a sentence and have

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no punctuation and have lower case

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eyes and things like that um but but we

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can make this happen like if you if you

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have an idea we want to support it we

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are looking for

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for just brave ideas out there the

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website is still in beta so if you were

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able to get in now you're able to get in

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early on and really be a part of the

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explosion of truth funders as we prepare

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to really go live with the main website

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i mean this is all

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right now it's kind of a half a halfsies

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type thing oh tomorrow i'd say

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we're still building it out and we're

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still we're kind of learning as we go

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here and yeah the website's happening

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people are donating i mean clearly like

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jesse marcel has tons of of um donations

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already coming in

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but it just it gets you on the ground

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floor and it gets you in a place to

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where you can help us come up with the

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right moves you know we don't know

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everything

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much more to closer to nothing than i do

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something and i think that having the

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community involved is really like the

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the main point that we're trying to get

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across here is that we we want to make

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this as collaborative of an effort as

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possible

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yes yeah we we just want to open our

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doors um and that's something to be said

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too we have so much plan for the site

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that's not there and people listening

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now will sort of have the inside scoop

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on everything we are creating a

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directory of radio shows a paranormal

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radio shows so imagine you listen to

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stuff on terrestrial radio you listen to

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podcasts you listen to streaming radio

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um we are going to be making a

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collective directory of

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everything and it's going to be on truth

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funder so like you you

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love let's say you love our show or you

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love california mufon radio on irn and

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you want to find more shows like that

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you'd be able to go to truthfunders.com

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click on the directory and search for

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those particular shows and you'll find

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stuff there's thousands there's

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literally just

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and that's just a glimpse into the idea

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that you really have for truth funders

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yes it's a crowdsourcing uh funding

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community but it's going to be much more

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than that it's going to be a destination

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eventually i think for all paranormal

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like that will be there will be so many

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more aspects to what the kind of content

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that you'll be able to get from truth

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hunters

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absolutely it's just it's exciting man

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it's such an exciting project imagine

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you create a project you have an idea

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for for a book for example you go ahead

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you create it you put it up on truth

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funders and then there is a directory of

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a thousand different radio shows that

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you can go into then and contact and say

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hey i'm creating a project

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it's about

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be

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and you can write to the people and and

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they can pick you up and say yeah that

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sounds like a great idea we'd love to

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have you on our show i mean a lot of

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paranormal shows are looking for guests

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i mean we look for guests constantly you

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know this is our second second week and

519
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we're we're blessed to have some really

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amazing people like jesse marcel i was

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going to say

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exactly and these projects i mean as you

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list off examples here maybe you want to

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raise a hundred thousand dollars to do

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forensic filming on rods you know i mean

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that's a pretty intense

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goal to try and i mean you this right

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jose wants to really get in deep and uh

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and i think we should actually bring him

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on now if we could yeah let's do it

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jose hello there he is jose welcome to

532
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truth finders radio you're with me art

533
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webb and mark you know mark

534
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hey jose it's good to be back on here

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mark and uh art

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how are you doing today how are things

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going very good very good you know i

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wanted to

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make a comment on that observation you

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made about that ufo video it definitely

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does look cgi

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yeah

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uh for the camera to follow it like that

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unless it was on a uh

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remote

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tag system you know where it

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automatically pans over

548
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that definitely shows the telltale sides

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of being cgi i i totally agree with you

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yeah absolutely

551
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,160
it's amazing by the way some of the

552
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:54,320
videos that are on youtube that are cgi

553
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,240
as the technology has progressed with

554
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:58,400
digital rendering people are creating

555
00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,760
like youtube videos now that they're

556
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:01,520
claiming as ufos that you it's basically

557
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:03,120
like you can't tell the difference with

558
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,200
some of these things it's crazy i wish i

559
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:07,280
was that good at uh graphics man i'd be

560
00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:08,400
able to make the

561
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:11,840
battle of los angeles right now

562
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:15,200
i suck at uh certain graphics but um

563
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,600
yeah there's talent out there that uh

564
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,440
i'd like to maybe contact to do the

565
00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:21,200
battle of los angeles because that movie

566
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:23,600
has to be made and um

567
00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:25,440
you know the technology has cut up to

568
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:28,559
the ufo phenomenon in many ways i agree

569
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,280
right absolutely the red cam stuff

570
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,840
that's out there we have finally

571
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,440
captured a rod

572
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:38,080
on the red cam epic red cam

573
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,640
at 200 frames per second

574
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:42,240
24p

575
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:43,919
which is not interlaced video that

576
00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:46,720
eliminates the insect uh debunkers

577
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:49,520
theory and all that but this is a clear

578
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:53,039
image of a rod as never before and um

579
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:54,559
time has come

580
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,880
that uh we're seeing rods as they really

581
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:58,720
appear and they appear to be the same

582
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,320
way that i've always

583
00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:02,480
said they are man i mean well now now

584
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:03,919
let me i'm sorry let me interrupt you

585
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:05,280
for just a second here jose i'm there

586
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:06,720
are people listening to this show right

587
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,559
now that do not know what a rod is can

588
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,440
you kind of explain what a rod is before

589
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:13,679
we get deeper into that whole

590
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:16,320
yeah and also your personal history with

591
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,840
rods um

592
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:19,440
what is a rod and how did you get

593
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:20,799
involved with the only rod i know is

594
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:25,909
j rod

595
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:27,039
um

596
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:29,679
no uh i discovered the rods phenomena

597
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:31,520
over midway and roswell new mexico back

598
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:33,520
in 1994.

599
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:36,880
we had had a ufo flap and um

600
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:39,120
we filmed some daylight activity of ufos

601
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:40,960
over roswell and midway

602
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:42,799
and you know roswell was my hometown so

603
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:44,320
i you know i just happened to have been

604
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:45,440
there

605
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,960
and

606
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,760
it

607
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,000
turns out that these rods

608
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:52,000
they resembled like flying snakes in the

609
00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:52,960
air

610
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,320
and at the time we were shooting at a

611
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,799
high shutter setting which meant that

612
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:58,480
when you filmed an insect it was an

613
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,559
insect when you filmed the bird it was a

614
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:02,880
bird when you go slow motion a rod

615
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:04,880
appeared like a flying snake it was

616
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,799
really a strange thing

617
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,600
and this is in 1994 right yeah march

618
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:10,960
1994

619
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:13,760
actually march 19th of this uh

620
00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:16,240
this year will be the set uh 20th year

621
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:18,400
anniversary it's a week from tomorrow

622
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,760
yeah exciting

623
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,840
20 years and rods and by the way if you

624
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,360
go to truthfunders.com and click on the

625
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,799
rods project you can see a video of

626
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,320
those images of the rods up there right

627
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:28,080
now and they do they look like flying

628
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,200
snake double head snakes honestly yeah

629
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,120
these are things man the

630
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:35,919
we now have footage of them on mars

631
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:38,960
we have underwater footage of them taken

632
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,080
by uh these people that rescue sharks

633
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,600
from they're amphibious i don't know

634
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:45,200
they were amphibious

635
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:47,440
yeah yeah they they have a cycle in the

636
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:48,400
oceans

637
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,840
we have footage of them entering and

638
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:51,760
coming out of the ocean

639
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,760
in space you know

640
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:56,080
shuttle footage the iss

641
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:57,679
there's a lot of footage taken by the

642
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,559
international space station full color

643
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:02,559
footage of rods entering

644
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,400
so they fly through the air i mean at a

645
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,159
rate of speed that it they're gone in a

646
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:08,000
blink right it's impossible to almost

647
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:10,000
catch them yeah they swim through the

648
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:11,840
air they don't fly

649
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,200
that's rather that's yeah that's what

650
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,360
the word is sorry yeah they use the

651
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:17,919
atmosphere as water you know

652
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:21,360
um so what color what color are they you

653
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:24,720
said that they um you have them in color

654
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,360
yeah we have uh orange ones we have

655
00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:29,760
yellow ones we have brown

656
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:31,840
and then we have the white ones another

657
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:33,760
the dark brown ones

658
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,600
do you think that they potentially take

659
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:37,600
on the color of their surroundings is

660
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,159
that what they do or are they

661
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,400
or we have no idea

662
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,400
yeah they seem to some of them appear

663
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,400
like ribbons in the sky you know like a

664
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:48,000
white ribbon

665
00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:49,919
it kind of just reflects light but uh

666
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,880
they appear to face in and out

667
00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:54,240
um

668
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,799
so maybe they are reflecting you know

669
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:59,120
the background but we do have footage of

670
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:01,919
them going behind buildings

671
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,400
um the washington monument is a good

672
00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:07,200
example when obama had his uh

673
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:09,039
inaugural speeds there was a huge rod

674
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:12,240
that fell i remember that yeah yeah yeah

675
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,679
and it flew behind the washington

676
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:15,760
monument which was amazing it was a

677
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:19,039
large one too and how big do they get

678
00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:20,960
gosh we have uh

679
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,640
well the stuff that's out on the shuttle

680
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:24,559
footage you know those are hundreds of

681
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:27,919
feet in length if not miles

682
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:31,039
the the shot we have of the rod on mars

683
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,880
it's uh it's perhaps about 10 miles long

684
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:36,080
10 miles

685
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:37,200
yeah

686
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,720
that's a 10 minute master and do you

687
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:40,240
think that they're do you believe them

688
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,350
they appear to be

689
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:49,120
that they have behavior like as if

690
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,400
they're a living entity of some kind

691
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:55,039
uh simply because they swim

692
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,480
through the air they use the air like

693
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:57,760
water

694
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,640
uh we have footage of them avoiding

695
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,720
collisions with base jumpers there's a

696
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:04,240
cave in mexico

697
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:05,520
by the cave of the swallows where

698
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,400
there's an

699
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,640
infestation of rods

700
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,480
and these base jumpers are jumping in

701
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:12,559
and these rods are just going real close

702
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,279
to them but avoiding making contact so

703
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,520
they have some form of intelligence it's

704
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,000
such a wild thing that you got onto here

705
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:22,159
and it's i can't imagine the amount of

706
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,520
years that you've dedicated that you put

707
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:25,440
into this trying to figure out what such

708
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:28,480
an unfat

709
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:29,919
concept is because it's completely

710
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,159
unnatural to anything that we know here

711
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,240
at the time at this time on the planet

712
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,520
so you've really put a lot of thought

713
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,520
into these i mean almost to the point of

714
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,279
obsession i would imagine of the last 20

715
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,600
years no yeah well you know i wanted to

716
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:45,279
find out what they are and what they are

717
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:46,080
not

718
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,440
um

719
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,520
we've eliminated that they're

720
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:51,360
not insects they're not birds there's

721
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:53,200
something else there's something else

722
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:54,880
that exists out there

723
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:57,760
that has mass uh they enter the ocean

724
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:59,679
they leave bubble trails

725
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,360
we have footage of that

726
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,919
um extremely fast i mean you can't see

727
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,679
them with a naked eye

728
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,600
uh if you've ever seen anything in your

729
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,360
eye peripheral in front of your face

730
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,440
just pass by a flash

731
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:13,679
or a dark thing and you look and there's

732
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:15,919
nothing there it was probably a rod

733
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,080
that's how they appear

734
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,720
but they seem to have

735
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:23,200
character lit characteristics of being

736
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,600
alive and this is why

737
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,120
you know at first

738
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:29,679
when i was living in denver

739
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,679
we checked them out with we presented

740
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,600
them to the museum of natural history in

741
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,799
denver

742
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:36,559
also here in los angeles the museum of

743
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:38,880
natural history here in l.a

744
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:41,840
and uh we took them to the biological uh

745
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,720
the marine biology department

746
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,799
entomology department the insects you

747
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:48,880
know area and there's nothing like them

748
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,200
in the world you know and for all we

749
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,760
know because they do seem to have some

750
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,159
kind of a cycle in the oceans there may

751
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,480
be a specimen already

752
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:01,200
uh captured in some marine laboratory

753
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:02,799
somewhere in the world

754
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,520
under an unknown jelly plankton

755
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:07,520
what well we know you know

756
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:09,120
wait a minute explain more on that is

757
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,559
this is this a recent development

758
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:12,559
because i mean i you know i've followed

759
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,320
your story over the years over the last

760
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:15,760
10 years or so and this is the first i'm

761
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,919
hearing of this well you know uh the

762
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:20,080
marine biologists there at the museum of

763
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,000
natural history in l.a

764
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:25,039
they said look they sort of resemble uh

765
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,720
guests what was the name of that

766
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,039
there's this type of a cuddle fish they

767
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,880
resemble a cuddle fish

768
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,080
and yeah

769
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,039
you know the angels camouflage yeah yeah

770
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,200
the way they propel themselves and they

771
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,919
said uh the lady uh

772
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,240
marine biologist said i wouldn't be

773
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,799
surprised if there's already specimen in

774
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:46,240
some jar

775
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,159
in some marine laboratory somewhere in

776
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,640
the world listed as an unknown jelly

777
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:52,799
plankton you know they're catching

778
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,279
species of unknown creatures uh all over

779
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:57,039
the world all the time especially in the

780
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:58,000
oceans

781
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,799
so

782
00:28:01,909 --> 00:28:00,399
recently too i mean there's been an

783
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,919
exponential amount of new new

784
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,760
discoveries in terms of life form that

785
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:05,840
we never even knew was out there deep

786
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,159
deep under the ocean yeah absolutely

787
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:10,159
yeah there's uh there's complete

788
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:14,080
environments of um ecosystems and on

789
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,720
tree canopies of all things in south

790
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,880
america and the amazon jungle i mean at

791
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,720
the tree canopies at the very top

792
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:22,640
there's complete

793
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:25,600
new creatures and insects and spiders

794
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:27,279
and things that exist that have never

795
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:28,720
been seen before

796
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,840
you know so there's ecosystems um

797
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,480
as in heaven as you know as as on earth

798
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,640
as it is in heaven as they say you know

799
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,320
well i was gonna say too i mean we know

800
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,080
it's a fact that we know more about our

801
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,600
own outer space

802
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:43,840
you know and our surrounding outside of

803
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,960
this planet that we do about our own

804
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,559
oceans and what's underneath us so

805
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:48,720
that's in and of itself because you

806
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:50,480
showed just how little we know it's

807
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:52,880
pretty odd man and so

808
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,279
to discover you know so jose when when

809
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:57,760
was your big break when did you uh

810
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,399
release the news of of rods or show the

811
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:03,039
original photo of rods was that was that

812
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,440
the art bell show back in 94 96 what

813
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:09,919
when did you sort of bring it to light

814
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:10,840
yeah it was

815
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:14,720
1994 i believe it was i was in l.a

816
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,559
doing the sea the tv show sightings

817
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:21,039
and uh art bell contacted me at the

818
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,320
hotel

819
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,399
and he said what was that like

820
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,200
talking about rods you know

821
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:28,880
so uh that was the first time i was i

822
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,960
believe it was in um

823
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:32,559
um

824
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,240
february of 95 actually february of 95.

825
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,159
you've dedicated your entire life to

826
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:40,240
this to this this rods thing i mean

827
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:41,919
clearly it is something that is very

828
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:44,960
important to you and it's why you are

829
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:47,360
using truth finders to raise the uh the

830
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:49,200
necessary dough in order to go in and

831
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:51,039
forensically analyze these films because

832
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,720
that's what you're looking to do right

833
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:54,399
exactly i'm trying to raise a hundred

834
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:55,840
thousand dollars

835
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:59,039
to do the final installment of the rods

836
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,480
films and

837
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:02,640
what i'm going to do is i know we know

838
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,760
areas where rod activity persists and we

839
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,520
want to set up camera

840
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:09,679
arrays you know set up 10 cameras all in

841
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,559
a row

842
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,559
and film into the skies there into the

843
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:13,840
different areas

844
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,840
using the latest technology high speed

845
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,320
film stereographic film

846
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,559
infrared ultraviolet

847
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:22,720
uh different types of camera setups so

848
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,640
that we can capture rods in in a way

849
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,640
they've never been captured before but i

850
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:28,320
found any kind of any kind of patterns

851
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,679
because you said that you you know

852
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:31,600
different locations where they are known

853
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,159
more so to exist and

854
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:35,679
kind of show up have you found patterns

855
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,919
in these locations similarities that

856
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:38,960
kind of

857
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:41,440
make it an ideal rod

858
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:43,520
spot on the planet

859
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:47,039
you know not necessarily that um

860
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,720
for example the cave of the swallows you

861
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,399
know there's millions of swallows that

862
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:52,960
emerge every morning at about 7 30

863
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,120
between 7 30 and 8 in the morning

864
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:57,279
millions of swallows come out of this

865
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:58,320
pit

866
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:00,080
that's large enough to fit the empire

867
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:02,480
state building in it and they come out

868
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:04,880
and swarms like a giant tornado vortex

869
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:07,440
of swallows of birds and you can see

870
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:09,440
these rods flying right through them i

871
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,320
mean

872
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,880
you know they're they're big sized rods

873
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:14,799
they're three footers four foot long you

874
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:17,760
know 10 miles on mars

875
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,519
yeah

876
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:20,480
and so now there's something they can

877
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:21,760
live under the water they can live in

878
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,960
the in the air in the atmosphere they're

879
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,799
swimming around here and in in the

880
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,559
oxygen that we're breathing and they've

881
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,320
been filmed out in outer space as well

882
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,840
so they can kind of go wherever they

883
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:31,760
damn well please these rods the vacuum

884
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:33,919
of space they seem to have mastered a

885
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:35,760
way to traverse i wonder if they're

886
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,960
interdimensional

887
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:39,440
yeah i mean they can travel through uh

888
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,159
through space i mean geez man

889
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,159
i have footage of them in the film they

890
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,240
live in the skies i mean there's a

891
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,480
gentleman out of washington dc that's

892
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,080
filming rods flying right over

893
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:52,880
washington dc man right over the capitol

894
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,399
you know in a no-fly zone and he has

895
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,640
uh squadrons of these things you know

896
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:01,440
he's using the same technology that nasa

897
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,320
uses filming uh on the international

898
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:07,279
space station his name is wilbur allen

899
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:09,519
and uh he's been filming rods in an

900
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,799
amazing way i mean incredible footage

901
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,720
and uh the clarity is incredible high

902
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:15,919
speed

903
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:18,399
and um you know with the advent of those

904
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:21,519
cameras and and then the the red cam

905
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:24,320
which is now accessible by many people i

906
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:25,840
mean affordable now they're much more

907
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,720
affordable too yeah yeah i mean uh i own

908
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,640
a hero4 camera

909
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,120
that films in super slow motion you know

910
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,279
and so

911
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,960
these cameras were not available 10

912
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,240
years ago i was gonna say how thrilled

913
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:40,159
are you to be alive in 2015 when you now

914
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:42,480
have this this access to such technology

915
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:44,559
where you can actually get in and film

916
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:46,399
them in the way that you always hoped

917
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,840
you would or dreamed you would be able

918
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,960
to now

919
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,159
start a project like the one you have on

920
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,320
truth funders to go in and forensically

921
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,600
kind of analyze these things and break

922
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:55,200
down really what's going on here and

923
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:00,320
maybe comprehensively find some kind of

924
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,840
commonality between them that then we

925
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,440
can start to piece together what is

926
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:05,360
actually going on here well the ultimate

927
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:07,519
thing would be to have an extreme

928
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,399
close-up shot of a rod hovering

929
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,799
you know not passing by real fast but

930
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:15,360
just sitting there and just hovering you

931
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:17,679
know chilling yeah i'm watching the

932
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:19,919
footage of the rods in space that you

933
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,760
have on truth funders on your project um

934
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:26,159
and people can see this too if if they

935
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:27,919
go to truth funders and click on your

936
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,960
project there's a place the very top and

937
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,640
it's it's in

938
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:34,720
looks like a picture and you could press

939
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:37,120
play there and you can you can see this

940
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:39,919
and the space footage is phenomenal i

941
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:44,080
mean that that looks clean crisp clear

942
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:45,840
um and i'm looking at the one the rod

943
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,679
filmed on mars right now remember mark

944
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:49,840
is an expert he knows how to ask how can

945
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:53,519
you separate when it's a rod and and

946
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:56,240
whether it's not like a disc or a ufo

947
00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,760
now i i see that i can tell the swimming

948
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:01,919
on some of them how some they looks like

949
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:04,640
they're swimming but how can you tell

950
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:08,480
whether it's a rod or if it's a disc

951
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,720
first of all they have the undulatory

952
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,839
wave fin

953
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:13,520
they have those little

954
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,359
tentacles i guess on the side on both

955
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,520
sides of the torso yeah

956
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:19,679
the rod on mars you can see that it has

957
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:22,000
that undulatory wavefin

958
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,879
action going on both sides of the torso

959
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,280
that's how you tell unless it's a

960
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,679
spiky ufo

961
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:31,760
but uh it moves extremely fast and we

962
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,960
have more footage of uh of rods on mars

963
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,960
so it's not that's just not one isolated

964
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,399
case i definitely want to talk about

965
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:40,320
that stuff and much more with you uh we

966
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:42,560
have jessie with us just how do you

967
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,800
pronounce not just i'm sorry jose it's

968
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:46,480
jose and jesse from week two week is

969
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,159
screwed me up entirely these pjs

970
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:52,800
yes it's it's the latin and the american

971
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:54,399
version of the same name um how do you

972
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,079
pronounce pronounce your last name

973
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,400
correctly

974
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,040
escamilla c is it's almost

975
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:03,359
italian the two l's are pronounced like

976
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:04,480
a y

977
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:06,079
all right escamilla uh we need to take a

978
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:07,200
quick break here on truth thunder's

979
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,800
radio though my name is art webb i have

980
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,400
mark shorts with me i have jose

981
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:12,720
escamilla and we are talking rods go to

982
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,480
truthfunders.com you can check out

983
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,640
jose's project now he is going to get to

984
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:18,480
the bottom of these rods if it is the

985
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:19,839
last thing he does

986
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:27,109
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1020
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:12,950
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00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:03,990
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1040
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,470
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1041
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:14,470
are you still talking about rods

1042
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,520
we're talking about rods you're

1043
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:17,040
listening to truth finders radio my name

1044
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:18,720
is art webb we have

1045
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,349
i know

1046
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,880
what is my problem you know i'm

1047
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,119
supposedly a professional broadcaster uh

1048
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:30,960
we're talking rods and who's on the line

1049
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:33,599
here with us on this phone call

1050
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:36,240
yes victor morgan rick from oregon

1051
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,710
uh

1052
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,640
the part of oregon central are you

1053
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,839
listening to the show in the background

1054
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:45,119
rick because you got whatever is going

1055
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:46,240
on back there you gotta turn that down

1056
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,440
if you could

1057
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,599
oh that's a tv program

1058
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:52,560
but all that i want to say is

1059
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,880
couldn't these rods be extraterrestrial

1060
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:56,000
and

1061
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:57,920
in other words

1062
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,560
they come from another planetary system

1063
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:02,079
in the universe

1064
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,119
i mean

1065
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,880
it seems to me that something that just

1066
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,240
evolved

1067
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:08,000
and exhibits

1068
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,040
the uh

1069
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,960
a life type of

1070
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,400
characteristic

1071
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,400
might be something that's evolved from

1072
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:16,480
another planetary system

1073
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,320
many billions of years older than ours

1074
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:22,240
well does that make any sense

1075
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,480
now that we have uh

1076
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,400
footage of them on mars

1077
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:28,320
it certainly is a possibility these are

1078
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,839
extraterrestrial they're also

1079
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:31,760
intra-terrestrial that means they're

1080
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:33,839
from here on earth too so

1081
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:36,000
they do have some form of a life cycle

1082
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:37,280
in space

1083
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,560
where they come from and what they're

1084
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:40,400
doing here we have no idea until we

1085
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:43,119
catch a specimen however the next

1086
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,560
greatest thing is the redcam footage

1087
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,480
the reason i'm so passive about the rods

1088
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,160
phenomena is because not only have i

1089
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:52,320
seen them with a naked eye

1090
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,359
but

1091
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,960
we now have

1092
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:57,200
footage that proves they are real i mean

1093
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:01,040
the red cam footage without a doubt

1094
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,720
proves they are real that there's

1095
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:04,240
definitely something there that's among

1096
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,230
step one and that was step one was

1097
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:12,480
proving that they are there i mean yeah

1098
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,000
and it's this is going to change the

1099
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,160
paradigm because

1100
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:17,520
for the first time in the history of

1101
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,800
ufos we have actual evidence of a real

1102
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,800
unidentified flying object that has

1103
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,720
proven to exist

1104
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:26,720
whether it's an alien

1105
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,359
whether it's a an ocean creature whether

1106
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,680
it's an insect we have no idea all we

1107
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,920
know is that these things are real

1108
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:35,920
and now we've eliminated all the other

1109
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,359
possibilities

1110
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,760
that have been uh presented forth up

1111
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:41,760
until now we now have a technology we

1112
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,280
now have the footage

1113
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,839
that undoubtedly loses

1114
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:47,359
hey rick let me ask you

1115
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:48,800
i wouldn't characterize them i wouldn't

1116
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:50,800
characterize them as a life form if they

1117
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:54,400
traverse uh space they may have a a

1118
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,720
different type of physiology or

1119
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,040
you know characteristic that maybe is

1120
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:03,839
something other than life it could be uh

1121
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,160
it could be it may be robotic in nature

1122
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:07,760
too so

1123
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,109
without anything they have the

1124
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:16,000
opportunity to exist in space so that

1125
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:17,520
means they are

1126
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:20,319
possibly of an alien origin you never

1127
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:21,280
know

1128
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:22,560
because i've already been following this

1129
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,920
story rick have you been following the

1130
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:25,920
rod's story for quite some time or is

1131
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:32,470
i've been following the rock story since

1132
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:33,839
i

1133
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,560
there we go see

1134
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:38,640
it is it is a it is a well known it is a

1135
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,430
all right and our all seems to be the

1136
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,920
source of a lot of these you know

1137
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:48,000
the beginning of a lot of these

1138
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,520
different uh

1139
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,760
stories that come out of

1140
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:54,319
you know today's absolutely

1141
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,040
well i think art bell is a big influence

1142
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:59,280
and i mean he was probably the biggest

1143
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,839
influence in the world of the

1144
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,079
paranormal he is king

1145
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,920
i bow to our bell

1146
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,839
and a lot of the stuff that we've done

1147
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,280
has you know

1148
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:09,599
been because of him i mean i know that

1149
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,240
my interest in the paranormal uh it

1150
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,319
started as a kid without art bell but

1151
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,800
when i was uh you know

1152
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,800
teenage college years i started

1153
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,480
listening to the radio late night and

1154
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,720
he'd be on and it would be really i

1155
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:24,240
would just be riveted it would be hard

1156
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:27,839
to fall asleep so it's it's really

1157
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,640
i think he he had a really big impact on

1158
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:31,680
on

1159
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:39,680
definitely

1160
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:41,440
and and i want to thank rick for calling

1161
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,960
in by the way thank you so much rick

1162
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:44,800
thanks rick and hey rick if you haven't

1163
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,280
seen the latest uh video about rods you

1164
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,599
should definitely go to truthfunders.com

1165
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:51,760
uh click on the front page and you will

1166
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,560
be able to to view the the

1167
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:56,560
rods right there and hopefully you can

1168
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,319
donate a little bit to jose's project

1169
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:00,640
because we would love to just break this

1170
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,200
open even more and i know that if we can

1171
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,160
raise enough money and and you know

1172
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,119
yeah jose knows what he's doing we have

1173
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,040
there's real actual proof now we

1174
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,720
actually just have to get the capital as

1175
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:14,960
a community to come together and and

1176
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:17,680
make it happen so five dollars goes a

1177
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:20,160
long way and it's not just a a cup of

1178
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,160
coffee you know it you spend that much

1179
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,640
on a cup of coffee so think about what

1180
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:26,480
you can get for five dollars

1181
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,760
um and you could you could be truth you

1182
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,440
could be

1183
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,240
uh you know really a part of this and a

1184
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,880
part of this phenomenon and um

1185
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:38,319
you could even have your name on it i

1186
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:39,760
know that that's some of the rewards

1187
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:42,160
that you're giving for for the project

1188
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:43,680
and we can go over the rewards a little

1189
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:46,319
bit um but you know you can have your

1190
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,680
name on this movie as well uh as as one

1191
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:51,599
of the contributors as a producer which

1192
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:53,920
i think is pretty fabulous especially

1193
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,560
the historical documentary man they live

1194
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,720
in the skies because

1195
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,200
like i say we prove

1196
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:03,040
one without a doubt that there is an

1197
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,160
unknown

1198
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:06,800
phenomenon that it exists among us hands

1199
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,800
down there's no way anybody can debunk

1200
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:11,280
this there's no way they can explain it

1201
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,400
away as a camera anomaly no sorry man

1202
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:15,760
this is it

1203
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:17,839
and it proves that there is the

1204
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,599
capability of having an unknown object

1205
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,520
existing among us

1206
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:26,400
so this is a paradigm changer man

1207
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:29,440
and and let me ask you i know that um a

1208
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:31,280
couple i don't know if it was a year or

1209
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,319
two ago

1210
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,480
maybe a little bit longer

1211
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,319
there's the show on tv it's called

1212
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,040
monster quest and they go around trying

1213
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,440
to find different monsters and prove if

1214
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:43,520
they're real or see if they can find

1215
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,200
them and you uh you worked with them

1216
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,359
they were curious about the rods so you

1217
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,440
went out and last request

1218
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,040
monster quest is one of my favorite

1219
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,440
shows and when they decided to do the

1220
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:56,960
rods uh

1221
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,520
a story on the rods they promised me

1222
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:01,040
that they were gonna do justice that

1223
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:02,720
they were gonna cover everything that i

1224
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,560
presented they're going to show all the

1225
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:06,240
evidence and everything else

1226
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,960
so i gladly took it on i said man

1227
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,280
finally at last i could present the rods

1228
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,040
the way that i've been wanting to for so

1229
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,359
many years sorry to such a big audience

1230
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,440
as well yeah and a huge audience well it

1231
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:19,200
turns out that they were on a mission to

1232
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,319
debunk me and uh the way they did it was

1233
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,480
underhanded because what they did is

1234
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,800
they deliberately glossed over the

1235
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:28,640
evidence like for example the tornado

1236
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:29,760
footage

1237
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,599
you know this was key

1238
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:34,079
footage of a giant rod that flies into

1239
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,200
the funnel

1240
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:37,440
15 miles away from the helicopter it's a

1241
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,280
huge rod it must be

1242
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:41,280
half a mile in length and it flies

1243
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,400
directly into the funnel 50 miles away

1244
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,400
but guess what the narrator says he

1245
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:49,040
writes it off saying probably debris and

1246
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,640
that's all they did you know that's the

1247
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:52,720
way they glossed over the evidence they

1248
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,680
also

1249
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,240
uh the shuttle footage okay of rods

1250
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:58,079
flying in and out of earth

1251
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,160
possibly debris that's the way they just

1252
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:02,160
wrote it off all right and see the v the

1253
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,040
viewing audience has no clue of what's

1254
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:06,800
being presented they take it at face

1255
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:08,800
value of course yeah the response

1256
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,359
request says so then that's all there is

1257
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,800
well that's like what i was saying

1258
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:14,640
earlier in the in the very beginning of

1259
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:18,079
the show looking at the ufo footage that

1260
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,079
that we were discussing at the very

1261
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,480
beginning you know um a lot of people

1262
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,160
just take it for what it is and they see

1263
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,640
that and they say oh well that's that's

1264
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:28,079
real it's right there it's in front of

1265
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:34,950
the producers of mastercards have no

1266
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,000
integrity okay they have no credibility

1267
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,720
they intentionally pull the wall over

1268
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,720
their viewers eyes

1269
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,119
and fake them out man they lied to them

1270
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,280
deliberately man you know and what

1271
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:49,200
they've done is they took

1272
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:50,480
um

1273
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,359
okay

1274
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,200
i'll give you a perfect example of the

1275
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,200
trickery that they used they were

1276
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,839
claiming that they were going to shoot

1277
00:47:02,309 --> 00:46:59,920
a paintball okay

1278
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:02,319
using regular camcorder what people

1279
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,079
don't realize is that when you use a

1280
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,400
camera indoors

1281
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:08,480
you have to set it at the auto normal

1282
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,760
shutter setting

1283
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:11,520
which means anything that you throw in

1284
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,079
front is going to be an elongated blur

1285
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,079
the producers knew this

1286
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:18,640
so naturally the paintball when it flies

1287
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,040
by is elongated if they would have used

1288
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,119
my sky fishy protocol which i developed

1289
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,839
to eliminate blurry objects

1290
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,119
they would have seen that the paintball

1291
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,880
would have been pristine but the

1292
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,640
producers knew that

1293
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,319
okay they could fully audience another

1294
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,400
thing they did sounds like they were

1295
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,160
they were lazy i don't know they were

1296
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,559
deliberately on a mission to debunk the

1297
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:40,480
rods all right to lie to the american

1298
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:41,440
people

1299
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,040
another thing they did is they said well

1300
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,119
the closest thing to a rod we feel is a

1301
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:47,599
hummingbird so they set up a high speed

1302
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:48,640
camera

1303
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:51,440
and a regular camcorder side by side in

1304
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,200
broad daylight but guess what no

1305
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,359
hummingbirds showed up so therefore they

1306
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,160
didn't need to do the test instead they

1307
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:00,240
did the test at night

1308
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:04,160
which compromises the regular camcorder

1309
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,760
deliberately

1310
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,359
they did that because they knew that

1311
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,520
anything filmed by the regular camcorder

1312
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:11,359
is going to be an elongated blur because

1313
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:12,559
at night

1314
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:14,720
you compromise the integrity of the

1315
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:17,440
footage and this doesn't matter

1316
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,760
what camera you use if you

1317
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:21,440
shoot at night you're compromising the

1318
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,599
integrity and the quality of the image

1319
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,359
but they knew this another thing they

1320
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,319
did is i sent them models that have been

1321
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:31,200
built by mit scientists nasa

1322
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:32,480
of rod

1323
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,680
propulsive

1324
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:35,520
instead they did the stupid wind tunnel

1325
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,400
test

1326
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,200
using a flat board with rubber on it and

1327
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,880
they put this thing in the wind they

1328
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:42,559
spent like 20 minutes on the stupid

1329
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:43,520
model

1330
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:44,319
where

1331
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,640
i showed them remote control flying

1332
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,440
models man of rods propulsion that

1333
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,880
proves the rugs

1334
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,040
proposing does really work

1335
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,440
you know so they eliminated a lot of the

1336
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,359
underwater footage of rods

1337
00:49:01,829 --> 00:48:59,920
the narrator said probably a fish would

1338
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:01,839
explain this i mean you know they just

1339
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:03,280
glossed over it

1340
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,440
and that's the way they did it so go on

1341
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:07,680
my youtube channel check out jose

1342
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,319
escamilla versus monster quest and

1343
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,200
you'll see how they screwed you over man

1344
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:15,040
this is how they deliver they screwed

1345
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,480
people's heads up man you know it's

1346
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,559
really it's really interesting you

1347
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:20,079
everything that you're saying you know

1348
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:21,839
i'm uh like i said i've worked in

1349
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:24,880
production for for years for for

1350
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,800
many many years um

1351
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,800
and everything you're saying is i

1352
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,720
totally understand it and it's totally

1353
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:33,359
right on uh if you all that stuff is

1354
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:35,920
completely compromised if you have low

1355
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:38,160
light uh you're gonna get you're gonna

1356
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:38,960
get

1357
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,240
streaks going through um you know and it

1358
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:44,240
will compromise the footage especially

1359
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,920
if if the object is lit at all um so i i

1360
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,760
completely understand and i totally

1361
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,599
agree with you now they also have they

1362
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:54,000
also had the guy from uh i'm sorry they

1363
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,559
had the the expert from pana panasonic

1364
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:58,800
cameras saying oh yeah intro-release

1365
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,359
video will cause this effect but

1366
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,119
he didn't tell you that using jose

1367
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,960
scamia's sky fishing protocol it

1368
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,119
eliminates interlaced video

1369
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:10,079
okay and you don't get that effect

1370
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:12,079
so but they didn't explain that they

1371
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:14,000
just said well yeah it released videos

1372
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,359
caused by

1373
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:16,880
60 fields you know they use these

1374
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,000
technical terms jq public is dumb anyway

1375
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:22,240
all right

1376
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:23,440
they just don't know they're unaware

1377
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,079
they're not as into the the specifics of

1378
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:28,800
what is going into capturing this type

1379
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:30,559
of video evidence i mean

1380
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,599
they shouldn't again they shouldn't be

1381
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:33,359
expected to know it either honestly and

1382
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,119
i think the monster quest you know it's

1383
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,520
unfortunate man it really is sad because

1384
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:39,520
these types of shows go on the air with

1385
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,240
with one type of marketing campaign that

1386
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,400
is we are going to get to the truth and

1387
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,800
ultimately all they really care about is

1388
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,640
generating as much audience as they can

1389
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:50,160
and making as much money as they can and

1390
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,200
that's not

1391
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,760
ever really what's going to bring the

1392
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,040
truth out and

1393
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:57,119
and unfortunately you were

1394
00:51:02,069 --> 00:50:59,599
victimized by yeah but you know i'm glad

1395
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,079
they did it because when you see my film

1396
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,000
jose's come here versus monster request

1397
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,480
i put it right there in front of you i

1398
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,400
show you how they deliberately

1399
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:10,720
uh insulted the intelligence of the

1400
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,760
viewers by lying to them okay

1401
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,000
you know what would be really cool jose

1402
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,920
would be uh and maybe you've done this

1403
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:19,920
before i'm not sure um

1404
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,319
show like make a video of of how to um

1405
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:27,359
capture a rod on video like the step by

1406
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,960
step or maybe you don't want to give

1407
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:31,119
away the secret i don't know but uh

1408
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,280
there's no secret to it and

1409
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:35,280
the the movie that i'm gonna do they

1410
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:37,200
live in the skies it's going to forego

1411
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:38,720
everything else that i've ever done the

1412
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,760
last 20 years of research on rods i am

1413
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,160
proving well i already have proof that

1414
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:46,079
the things are real i'm just taking it a

1415
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:47,839
step further as you say i'm doing

1416
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,880
forensic evidence for instance uh

1417
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,559
footage of rods as numbered before i

1418
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:54,480
want to capture the best rods footage

1419
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:57,440
ever okay and that's all yeah this will

1420
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:59,599
be the final this will be the the

1421
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,960
presentation that you've been wanting to

1422
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,640
put together for many years i'm certain

1423
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:04,319
like this is the culmination of

1424
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,680
everything that's here

1425
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,440
okay everything you've ever done

1426
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:09,920
20 years on this i mean that's 1994 i

1427
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:12,720
was nine years old

1428
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:14,880
that is so great i mean that is

1429
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,599
incredible and and everybody out there

1430
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:19,839
that's listening to this i mean imagine

1431
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,559
putting 20 years of your life into

1432
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:24,480
something uh and and

1433
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,720
actually capturing it capturing that

1434
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:28,720
proof and capturing that evidence and

1435
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,839
going through years of ridicule and you

1436
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,359
know yeah i'm sure you've been just

1437
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,520
beaten up time and time again in

1438
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:38,240
different areas of i've had my life

1439
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,240
because people saw that uh

1440
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,040
that uh uh mouse request episode they

1441
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,040
said you're a liar you're we're gonna

1442
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,040
kill you for being you know hopes and

1443
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,359
all that crap but you didn't stop though

1444
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,960
did you you did not stop because you

1445
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:51,839
knew

1446
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,200
that you were on the side i know they're

1447
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,200
real i know they exist

1448
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:57,359
i've seen them with my own naked eye

1449
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,800
i filmed them

1450
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,880
and now we have the solid evidence that

1451
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,559
these things are real

1452
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:03,599
so

1453
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:06,480
this is a perfect example of what why

1454
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,240
truth funders is here

1455
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,640
um because it you know this is this is

1456
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:12,480
the community and the people listening

1457
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:13,520
right now

1458
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:17,200
they they understand that um and so you

1459
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,160
know to to make this groundbreaking film

1460
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:22,880
to help with it you know it doesn't take

1461
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,880
much and everybody can contribute and

1462
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:26,160
everybody can just

1463
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,720
like put a little bit into into making

1464
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,319
it happen i mean

1465
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:33,200
i i want to see this this blown up you

1466
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:35,839
know i want to see this happen but it

1467
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:38,079
and people have to understand too when

1468
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:39,599
you do something on truth funders you're

1469
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,240
not asking for people to just give you

1470
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:44,480
money the money is just not going into

1471
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:46,720
your pocket you're not just taking it

1472
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:47,760
and

1473
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,760
laughing all the way to the bank

1474
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,520
that's how much it really costs and i

1475
00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:53,440
mean especially if you want to use

1476
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:55,359
high-tech cameras and the

1477
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:57,200
top-of-the-line stuff and to get a

1478
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:00,319
forensic scientist which you need to do

1479
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,839
yeah it it costs money to do that and

1480
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,200
and so

1481
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:07,920
and people donating they're not just

1482
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:09,920
donating and and giving you money

1483
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,839
they're actually getting stuff in return

1484
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,839
i mean they're they're getting hats or

1485
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:16,800
caps it's like imagine spending money on

1486
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,800
something a cause that you totally

1487
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,880
believe in and then and then getting

1488
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:23,040
something cool in return for it like

1489
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,720
your name on the project or or a t-shirt

1490
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,480
or something like you're not just

1491
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:30,480
putting it out into the ether and hoping

1492
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,599
that it comes to pass you're actually

1493
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,480
going to get something for donating and

1494
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,720
helping a cause that you believe in and

1495
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:40,480
that's why i was so excited when we

1496
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,599
first got in contact um i had heard you

1497
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,839
on jimmy church and he had talked about

1498
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,440
you and said oh you got to get in touch

1499
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:49,760
with truth funders and i thank jimmy so

1500
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:51,680
much for that i mean he's such a great

1501
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:52,480
guy

1502
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:53,839
um

1503
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:56,960
yeah i mean he his show is fantastic uh

1504
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,240
you know i i aspire to to be

1505
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:02,480
you know he's he's his own own entity

1506
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,359
and everything um but but

1507
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:07,920
the way he he uh

1508
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,000
sort of delves into things it's really

1509
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,079
it's fantastic and you know it was a

1510
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,160
great interview that you had with him

1511
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,240
and i suggest to anybody listening you

1512
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,000
guys should go back and listen to

1513
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:20,720
jimmy's interview with uh with jose

1514
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,359
because it was really great but

1515
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,920
you know coming back to this it's it's

1516
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:28,079
like i'm just so glad that we were put

1517
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:30,559
in touch i had i i heard him talk about

1518
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,000
it and i said i need to reach out to

1519
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:34,880
jose um so i sent you an email and i

1520
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:37,280
said hey you know and and we just

1521
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,920
started talking and and we helped to put

1522
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:41,760
this together and it's been on there for

1523
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:43,680
a little while now and there hasn't been

1524
00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:46,000
a lot we've we've done some social

1525
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:47,599
networking we've done some stuff to get

1526
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:50,400
it out there but we really need people

1527
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:53,359
to pay attention now and and to help out

1528
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,599
because this is such a worthwhile cause

1529
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,000
like this could be the proof that we

1530
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:00,880
need to show that something else is out

1531
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,520
imagine this mark um imagine

1532
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,599
a spaceship landing

1533
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:07,359
and there's cameras all over the place

1534
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,040
filming it and an alien comes out of the

1535
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:11,280
spaceship and walks up and poses in

1536
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:13,280
front of the camera okay

1537
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,040
imagine how valuable that footage would

1538
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:16,960
be right

1539
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:19,119
well that's what we have in this epic

1540
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,920
dead

1541
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:20,880
footage

1542
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:23,440
we have the closest thing to an alien

1543
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,839
walking out of the spaceship that's how

1544
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:27,839
clean this footage is that's how

1545
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:30,000
important this footage is the guy wants

1546
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:31,680
to sell it for twenty five thousand

1547
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,480
dollars and it's only a five second clip

1548
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,240
but it's a red cam man this is the

1549
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,240
highest resolution camera in the world

1550
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:39,839
4k resolution

1551
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:41,599
anyone that knows anything about cameras

1552
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:44,079
will tell you this camera is a no

1553
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,640
camera man it's the ultimate

1554
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,040
resolution highest resolution camera in

1555
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:51,680
the world and it has a rod filmed at 200

1556
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,400
frames per second and it is what it's a

1557
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:56,880
rod man i mean there's no two ways about

1558
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:57,599
it

1559
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,280
film this footage is we already have the

1560
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:03,200
proof that they are real i'm just taking

1561
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:04,160
a step

1562
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:09,119
footage ever filmed

1563
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,880
and so i think when we get back from the

1564
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:12,400
break here because we do need to take a

1565
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:13,920
quick break we're only going to have

1566
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,960
about 15 minutes or so left with you

1567
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:19,200
jose um there's two things i want to get

1568
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:21,040
to hey i want to get to uh some more

1569
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,960
calls because i do believe that we have

1570
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:24,960
more coming in and if you would like to

1571
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:26,000
get on the line and talk about these

1572
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,240
rods

1573
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,280
888-919-2355 to get in touch with truth

1574
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,760
funders radio beyond with jose martin

1575
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,760
myself and also i want to know uh where

1576
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,599
the term rods came for who coined the

1577
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:37,680
term rod because it certainly stuck and

1578
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:40,799
i want to know also what you think will

1579
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,760
happen

1580
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,359
once you

1581
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,440
figure out what's going on with these

1582
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,280
rods just where you see like you know

1583
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:48,960
the once you get this film out like what

1584
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,319
your next what your next step is like

1585
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:52,000
what you're i mean i know it's hard to

1586
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,359
gauge that because you don't really know

1587
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:55,280
what to expect but i'm sure you've been

1588
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,480
doing this for long enough that you have

1589
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,319
an idea uh you're listening to truth

1590
00:58:01,670 --> 00:57:59,839
thunder's radio here on the interception

1591
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,680
radio network yep i want to say one

1592
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:03,520
thing before we go to break um you know

1593
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,240
i want to put my my money where my mouth

1594
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:08,319
is and everyone will see right now that

1595
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,920
um there's ten dollars that's been

1596
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,880
donated to this project uh i i'm gonna i

1597
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,640
wanna get the ball rolling i'm gonna go

1598
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,720
while we're on break right now donate my

1599
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:18,799
own money i'm gonna donate at least five

1600
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,960
bucks i'm gonna donate more you know

1601
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,280
when in in just a little bit but for

1602
00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:25,280
right now i really want to rally people

1603
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:28,319
to go to truthfunders.com click on rods

1604
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,319
they live in the skies it's right there

1605
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:32,720
watch the video i mean you hear our

1606
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:34,400
passion you understand that it's out

1607
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,839
there um for five years 20 years jose's

1608
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,839
20 years he spent you give him five

1609
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,000
bucks for 20 years of

1610
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,480
dedication i mean jesus christ the real

1611
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,119
deal this is the real real deal also you

1612
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:49,280
know and mark to your point a little bit

1613
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,200
further if you don't have the money i

1614
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:53,040
mean because look we live in

1615
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,599
some of the weirdest economic times of

1616
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:57,200
the entire like

1617
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:59,280
present you know current technological

1618
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:01,200
generation it is tough out there and we

1619
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,400
understand that people don't have you

1620
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:04,559
know money to donate and if that's the

1621
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,599
case

1622
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:07,440
share the link on social media that is

1623
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:10,000
as important as as donating and just

1624
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:11,359
getting the word out there and spreading

1625
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:13,760
around because the viral nature of it

1626
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:16,319
and the word of mouth is really the best

1627
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:19,280
form of helping awareness and that is

1628
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,480
something that you have within your

1629
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:22,160
power within

1630
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:24,480
60 seconds of your power to post a click

1631
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,240
link a quick link out there so one of

1632
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:28,160
two options you know uh this is

1633
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:29,920
truthfunders radio my name is art webb

1634
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:32,559
we will be back with mark schwartz and

1635
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,040
mr jose

1636
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:37,440
i'm gonna get it escamilla you finally

1637
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,510
on the inception radio network

1638
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,920
are you a fan of inception radio network

1639
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,680
do you reckon it's the best alternative

1640
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,079
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this is truth funders radio and the

1736
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1737
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1738
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:47,760
with jose escamilla we're talking rods

1739
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:50,000
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1740
01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:52,480
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1743
01:05:00,390 --> 01:04:58,240
jose's project he's go he's going to

1744
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:00,400
raise a hundred thousand dollars to have

1745
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:02,160
these things these rods

1746
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:03,440
properly

1747
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:05,359
uh analyzed you know we're gonna he's

1748
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:06,880
gonna get knee deep into rods i mean

1749
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:08,720
he's 20 years he's been doing this and

1750
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:10,960
now finally after years of waiting for

1751
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,880
technology and just the ability to even

1752
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:14,799
try and suss out what's going on the

1753
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:16,079
time is now that's got to be a really

1754
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:17,200
exciting

1755
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:19,520
notion for you and probably

1756
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:21,280
a cure for maybe some burnout that

1757
01:05:25,029 --> 01:05:22,799
you've experienced having done this for

1758
01:05:27,430 --> 01:05:25,039
so long jose no well you know i never

1759
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:27,440
did get burned down on the rods so every

1760
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:29,680
time i see a new rod shot i get already

1761
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:30,880
excited and

1762
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,359
here's the thing about it is that every

1763
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:35,440
case that i've seen every shot every

1764
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:38,960
photo every f uh clip has been different

1765
01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:40,400
man there's always something different

1766
01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:43,280
like for example there's a shot of a rod

1767
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:44,880
filmed in the uk

1768
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:47,520
that is falling downward it's not moving

1769
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:50,000
left to right you know most rod footage

1770
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:52,160
is extremely fast moving left to right

1771
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:54,640
right horizontal yeah this thing is

1772
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:57,839
falling downward on its side

1773
01:06:01,510 --> 01:05:59,839
and that's the first i wonder if it's an

1774
01:06:03,510 --> 01:06:01,520
injured rod

1775
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:03,520
yeah well no it's flying as flight path

1776
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:05,760
is straight downward there was another

1777
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,319
shot like that taken by fox tv at the

1778
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:10,240
cave of the swallows where the base

1779
01:06:13,589 --> 01:06:12,640
jumper is falling downward at 120 miles

1780
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:13,599
an hour

1781
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:16,240
terminal velocity the rod is also

1782
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:18,079
falling straight downward at the same

1783
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,720
time it goes underneath his belly and

1784
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,400
makes a u-turn goes back where it came

1785
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:25,440
from all in within seconds what uh out

1786
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,599
of all these years of being

1787
01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:29,039
tied in with the rods and investigating

1788
01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:31,680
on what is your favorite piece of raw

1789
01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:32,480
footage

1790
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:36,079
ever seen or taken

1791
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:38,880
god well that that rod shot of the fox

1792
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:41,520
tv thing where the rod flies downward

1793
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,960
and underneath the guy's belly also uh

1794
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:46,880
there's high speed footage like i said

1795
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:49,359
uh shot by adrian netherington

1796
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:51,599
in the redcam that's my favorite to the

1797
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,680
max man i mean that's the ultimate

1798
01:06:59,190 --> 01:06:55,920
favorite shot so do you have to buy that

1799
01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:59,200
footage is that is that part of

1800
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:01,920
licensing it he wants 25 000 to buy it

1801
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,680
out but he'll license it to me for 2500

1802
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:07,839
for the film which is 10 percent of what

1803
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:09,839
it's worth but i'll be able to use it in

1804
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:12,160
my movie if they live in the skies so

1805
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:14,000
let's talk about the film so you are now

1806
01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:15,280
you're gonna raise this money here on

1807
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:17,200
truth funders to have the footage

1808
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,880
properly documented and gone through and

1809
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,880
then beyond that you do plan on putting

1810
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:22,559
together a feature documentary film

1811
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:25,680
about the the rod's story and and really

1812
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:27,200
comprehensively put everything in one

1813
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:28,960
place i wanted to know before we went to

1814
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:30,799
the break i wanted to ask you where did

1815
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,319
the term rod did you come up with the

1816
01:07:37,270 --> 01:07:34,799
term rods did you coin that no one of my

1817
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:37,280
girlfriends was a nurse and she said

1818
01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:39,119
that these things look like what rods

1819
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,119
look like under the microscope and

1820
01:07:44,549 --> 01:07:43,440
there's a medical dictionary called

1821
01:07:48,069 --> 01:07:44,559
tabor's

1822
01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:48,079
t-a-b-e-r apostrophes medical dictionary

1823
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:50,960
look at the word rods and you'll see

1824
01:07:57,349 --> 01:07:53,520
a bacteria that has an undulatory

1825
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,359
waveform on both sides of the torso um

1826
01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:58,880
and that's what they look like under the

1827
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:01,599
microscope rods and that's that's where

1828
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:03,680
the term came from

1829
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,680
so it's you know it's only fitting that

1830
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,920
it because they look like they look like

1831
01:08:11,109 --> 01:08:08,880
something that you would see under a

1832
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:11,119
microscope almost like a biological uh

1833
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:12,960
uh um

1834
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:14,720
microscopic type

1835
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,279
um you know it's actually more it's

1836
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:19,199
actually bacteria bacteria thank you

1837
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:21,440
that's what i was looking for yeah so

1838
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:25,520
imagine a video camera is a macroscope

1839
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:27,120
and then the microscope of course is a

1840
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:28,960
microscope so you know

1841
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:30,640
um

1842
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,880
these things have a

1843
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:34,319
characteristic

1844
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:36,159
that look like rhizome in the microscope

1845
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:38,159
that's where it came from basically and

1846
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,239
so with this film what what are your

1847
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:42,159
plans what's your timeline how do you

1848
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:44,000
see this this entire film coming

1849
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:46,159
together what's what's the general

1850
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:47,600
consensus on where you're at right now

1851
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:48,960
and what you need to get done still with

1852
01:08:51,669 --> 01:08:49,759
that

1853
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:51,679
well i just need to get the funding in

1854
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:53,839
place i'm going to go back to denver

1855
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:56,319
because a lot of the major research

1856
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:58,239
that took place back in the early 90s

1857
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:01,440
was in roswell midway and

1858
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,239
new mexico and denver colorado so i want

1859
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:06,719
to get some of the original rodman and

1860
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:08,719
rod women that were researching rods

1861
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:11,120
with us back in the 90s

1862
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:12,400
on film

1863
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,199
to view this new footage of the rod shot

1864
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:17,040
in high-speed cam

1865
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:17,920
so

1866
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:20,799
it's a gathering of the original rodman

1867
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,400
and rod women and then um

1868
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,640
a culmination i mean i have incredible

1869
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:28,560
footage guys that i haven't released to

1870
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,600
the public

1871
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:31,120
that's going to make their debut on this

1872
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,199
movie they live in the skies

1873
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:35,759
and uh the title of that film by the way

1874
01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:38,400
is in honor of trevor james constable

1875
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:42,159
who was filming ufos and rods using

1876
01:09:46,229 --> 01:09:44,560
ultraviolet and infrared film back in

1877
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:46,239
the 50s

1878
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:48,640
and he's the one that uh started filming

1879
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:50,880
invisible ufos and found out that there

1880
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:53,839
are there is an invisibility to ufos and

1881
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:56,000
rods and things so uh

1882
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,840
his book was called the live in the

1883
01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:00,000
skies his original book about invisible

1884
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:02,719
things that exist among us so um i'm

1885
01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:04,640
honoring him

1886
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,000
uh by

1887
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,080
making the title of this film

1888
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,400
the final installment of the rods they

1889
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,719
live in the skies babies it's awesome

1890
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,320
man i can't wait

1891
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:16,480
it's gonna be a great film

1892
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:18,560
all right let's um

1893
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,560
that's that's awesome and i can't wait

1894
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:22,480
as well you were saying that uh oliver

1895
01:10:26,470 --> 01:10:23,840
stone's son was gonna be doing the

1896
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:26,480
narration to it uh no he's starring in a

1897
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:28,480
film called that i'm making

1898
01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:30,480
which is part of the trilogy of you know

1899
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:32,719
the first of all ufo the greatest story

1900
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:34,880
every night

1901
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:37,120
is a trilogy of films there's your

1902
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,480
father great story we deny you a

1903
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:40,080
probably greater story of the night moon

1904
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,199
rising

1905
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:43,280
and then the third one is ufos the great

1906
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:44,960
story of denied

1907
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:47,120
ufos from outer space

1908
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:48,239
yeah

1909
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:50,320
it's like a classic sci-fi

1910
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:52,400
yeah it's like no

1911
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:55,280
it's like an old 1950s movie you know

1912
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,030
yeah but in fact these are

1913
01:11:06,149 --> 01:11:03,760
shots of ufos filmed by nasa

1914
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:06,159
and space agencies entirely in outer

1915
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:09,280
space there's not one shot in this movie

1916
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:11,280
of any ufo film from here on earth this

1917
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:13,040
is all stuff shot

1918
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,560
by nasa starting in the 1950s

1919
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,560
you know during the wild man yeah and

1920
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:20,320
that's that's insane and all of this

1921
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,800
again is it truthfunders.com

1922
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,400
you'll see the rods link right there on

1923
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:26,239
the homepage just scroll down click on

1924
01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:27,760
it there's a bunch more content for you

1925
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:29,360
to check out i mean there's screenshots

1926
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:30,880
there's information there's all these

1927
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,960
wonderful and amazing uh rewards for

1928
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:34,800
different levels of donation everything

1929
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:37,199
from an actual executive producer credit

1930
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:38,400
on the film and by the way if you get

1931
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:40,320
that executive producer credit do you

1932
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:42,239
think get the uh royalties that go along

1933
01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:43,840
with it

1934
01:11:48,149 --> 01:11:46,159
uh no no

1935
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:48,159
no no no no but but you get your name on

1936
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:49,520
it and that's something that's so

1937
01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:51,280
important these days

1938
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:53,199
you're part you're part of the history

1939
01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:54,400
however

1940
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:57,360
if you want to invest in the film

1941
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,400
okay

1942
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:00,560
then we can talk different bananas man i

1943
01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:02,960
mean we i'm willing to sell

1944
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:05,040
a percentage of the film

1945
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,640
to anyone that wants to finance it i

1946
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,400
mean if you want to put in an investment

1947
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:10,239
of fifty thousand dollars for example

1948
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:13,360
i'll give you a major cut of the movie

1949
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:14,640
and well that's because that's somebody

1950
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:15,760
that if somebody's putting in that kind

1951
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,120
of dough it means that they believe in

1952
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:19,440
it as much as you do absolutely man i

1953
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:21,679
mean come on man this is a movie that's

1954
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:24,400
going to turn it all around for all ufo

1955
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:27,360
enthusiasts worldwide we are proving

1956
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:30,000
that there's a ufo that exists among us

1957
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:31,440
that is real

1958
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:32,800
i mean jeez

1959
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:34,800
my final question for you jose

1960
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:35,840
the last question i would want to ask

1961
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,800
you is what do you think they are i mean

1962
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:40,560
you're the the authority what is it do

1963
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:41,840
you think they're extraterrestrial do

1964
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,880
you think they're interdimensional do

1965
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:44,400
you think they're biological

1966
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:46,000
do you have any idea are you still

1967
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:48,480
completely at a loss as to what that

1968
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:49,280
could be

1969
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:51,760
the way it is is this until we catch a

1970
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:54,800
specimen we can't dissect it okay

1971
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:57,199
to find out what they are all i can tell

1972
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,120
you is that they are here

1973
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,880
they are very real

1974
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,719
and we now have evidence that proves

1975
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:04,719
this

1976
01:13:11,189 --> 01:13:06,880
so wherever they come from whatever

1977
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:11,199
they're doing here we have no idea

1978
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:13,040
their intentions don't seem malicious

1979
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:14,239
i'll give you that i mean they don't

1980
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:15,840
they're not hurting people and they

1981
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,080
specifically stand here

1982
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:20,960
i mean i have aboriginal rock carvings

1983
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:23,760
from 56 000 years ago

1984
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:26,400
of rods so wow they've been around a

1985
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:28,320
long time

1986
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:30,719
you are the real deal jose uh thank you

1987
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:32,080
so much for coming on the program with

1988
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,480
art yes thank you jose that was that was

1989
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:36,320
great discuss it and just really like

1990
01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:38,800
get you know in depth into what it is

1991
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:40,159
you want to do with these rods i mean

1992
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:42,000
it's so um

1993
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:44,480
just admirable to me thank you you've

1994
01:13:50,070 --> 01:13:46,960
dedicated so much your time in your life

1995
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:50,080
to uncovering truth and and getting you

1996
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,800
know

1997
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:51,840
you're doing this for yourself but

1998
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:52,640
you're doing it for the rest of the

1999
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:54,719
world too well it's because i've seen

2000
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:56,400
them i know they exist i know they're

2001
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:57,440
real

2002
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:58,400
you know

2003
01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:00,640
and uh we now have the final evidence

2004
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:02,320
that proves that they exist and they are

2005
01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:03,360
among us

2006
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:05,600
and they are very real and like i said i

2007
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:07,120
present the evidence as it presents

2008
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:09,920
itself it has finally presented itself

2009
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:13,120
in a fashion that it's undeniable no one

2010
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:16,000
can deny that this thing is not real i

2011
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,480
can hear it in your voice man you are so

2012
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,719
not bullshitting anybody right now it is

2013
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:23,040
it is clearly a passion of yours and it

2014
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:24,480
probably keeps you up at night a lot of

2015
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:26,640
the time and uh it means the world to

2016
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:28,320
mark and i that you would come on and

2017
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:30,239
you would you know take truth funders

2018
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:32,480
and put put your name behind it as well

2019
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:33,280
because

2020
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:35,760
honestly you have been around for a very

2021
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:38,239
long time and we are just happy to have

2022
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:41,520
you on board well i'm so glad that mark

2023
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:43,760
and you guys created truth funders man

2024
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:45,360
this is going to be

2025
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:47,440
the forefront of the

2026
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:49,520
making of crowdfunding for people like

2027
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,239
me

2028
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:51,840
and other filmmakers out there that need

2029
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:54,880
the money uh you've created a platform

2030
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:57,120
that i think is dynamic and i appreciate

2031
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:58,480
you guys for what you're doing you've

2032
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,560
got my total support

2033
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,400
thank you so much jose

2034
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:04,080
um

2035
01:15:08,830 --> 01:15:07,120
it's jose escamilla

2036
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:08,840
you can find more forget it

2037
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:11,360
truthfunders.com you can also uh go to

2038
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:12,719
facebook.com

2039
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:15,440
truthfunders and uh you hit the twitter

2040
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:16,880
there's all sorts of different ways for

2041
01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:18,159
you to interact with truthfunders and

2042
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:20,080
share truthfunders and more specifically

2043
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,149
a rods statement here uh

2044
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:27,760
you know how parents give you all these

2045
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,320
names and everything else my full name

2046
01:15:37,510 --> 01:15:35,910
oh jeez wow

2047
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:37,520
that's my phone if you can figure it out

2048
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,709
it would take me 15 minutes yeah let's

2049
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:44,159
write down and call you that the next

2050
01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:45,920
time you call into the show i'm going to

2051
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:47,520
say the full thing and we would love to

2052
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:49,199
have you back on a little bit later just

2053
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:50,880
to kind of talk more about like how the

2054
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,960
project's going and any kinds of updates

2055
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,640
so that would be great if you could uh

2056
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:56,400
make some more time for us down the line

2057
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,520
any time

2058
01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:59,040
awesome thank you so much i agree thank

2059
01:16:02,149 --> 01:16:00,320
you

2060
01:16:04,870 --> 01:16:02,159
all right good night good night all

2061
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:04,880
right mark mark this is just

2062
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:06,560
i love interviews like that because the

2063
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,880
guy is so goddamn passionate about

2064
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,560
everything that he's saying and doing

2065
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:11,840
that

2066
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:13,760
gosh dang we're on the internet

2067
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:15,120
you know what you're gonna get me

2068
01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:16,239
started on this whole thing i was

2069
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:17,120
talking about this with somebody the

2070
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:19,040
other day everybody swears everybody

2071
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:21,360
does yet we continue to keep it as

2072
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:23,040
something that oh no

2073
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:24,640
but it's how we talk it's how everybody

2074
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:26,640
talks and my passion is coming out right

2075
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:28,000
now i mean i say things like that

2076
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:30,560
because it i feel his passion and it

2077
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:37,510
absolutely infectious and and that's

2078
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:39,760
what i love about the the people on

2079
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:41,440
truth finders they're so passionate

2080
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:43,440
about their projects because they know

2081
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:44,719
they just know in their hearts and their

2082
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:46,159
guts that this is the thing that they

2083
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:47,600
need to be doing and

2084
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:49,520
and it just it's it's invigorating you

2085
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:51,600
know i mean i come to do this show with

2086
01:16:54,550 --> 01:16:53,440
you and we sit down and i'm usually

2087
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:54,560
working on other things and i'm

2088
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:55,679
distracted and i'm trying to get my

2089
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:56,560
stuff together and by the time we're

2090
01:17:02,310 --> 01:16:58,480
done talking to these people i'm just

2091
01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:02,320
i'm a ball of energy far more larger

2092
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,480
than i was at any other point in the day

2093
01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:07,040
you know i i feel exactly the same way

2094
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:10,000
um and it's so cool it's so cool to see

2095
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,920
uh and and here's the thing is that

2096
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:14,480
anybody can do this literally

2097
01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:17,520
anybody can can go to truth funders and

2098
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:19,120
create something

2099
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:21,520
everybody has a story to tell

2100
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:24,320
maybe you want to create a book that has

2101
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,400
other people's experiences and you go

2102
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:28,320
online and find a way to collect

2103
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:29,920
people's stories and and you want to

2104
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:31,840
create a book about it maybe you already

2105
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:33,679
have a book that's out there and you

2106
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:35,520
want to market it and get it in front of

2107
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:38,080
more people like we're we're around for

2108
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:38,800
that

2109
01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:40,800
what what we are is like

2110
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:43,920
the front this the storefront you know

2111
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:45,280
how many people do you think they have

2112
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:47,040
not acted on ideas that they've had

2113
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:48,640
because they just didn't know how to

2114
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,320
even go about trying to get funding to

2115
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:52,239
write a book or to make a documentary

2116
01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:54,560
they just oh so many yeah and it's like

2117
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:56,080
well i would love to do something like

2118
01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:57,440
that but man that's i'm not in that

2119
01:18:01,750 --> 01:17:59,120
industry i don't know what how to get a

2120
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:01,760
bookie agent or whatever like this this

2121
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:06,560
is a step one level type of resource for

2122
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:08,800
anybody that is looking to get involved

2123
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:10,800
with well and we are

2124
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,880
we are in the golden age of the internet

2125
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:14,800
right now it's not going to be like this

2126
01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:16,719
forever the way it is this is your

2127
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:17,760
channel

2128
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:19,360
too everybody's donating already mj

2129
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:20,960
thank you for donating to his project

2130
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:22,159
that's awesome

2131
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:23,040
uh

2132
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:25,280
you know this is this is our chance to

2133
01:18:28,709 --> 01:18:26,880
make a difference this is our chance to

2134
01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:28,719
be heard if you

2135
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:31,760
love the paranormal you can support it

2136
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:33,040
you can

2137
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:35,440
donate and then share on facebook you

2138
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:36,960
know the fact that you donated and get

2139
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:38,800
that project out there if you have an

2140
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:41,679
idea this is the time because you know

2141
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:42,960
what we're not always going to have

2142
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:44,800
these freedoms that we do currently on

2143
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,640
the internet those things will be taken

2144
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,400
away from us eventually and you're going

2145
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,560
to wish that you had gotten involved and

2146
01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:52,320
put your idea out there when you could

2147
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:54,640
have look at mj he has he has sponsored

2148
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:57,040
two 100 of all of our guests on the show

2149
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:58,640
so far he has every single show we have

2150
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:00,239
done he has gotten to donate and that's

2151
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:03,360
that is so that is so good example of mj

2152
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:05,199
mj you're the man

2153
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,280
here's the thing is that not everybody

2154
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,520
not everybody out there has the drive to

2155
01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:11,520
go ahead and and create something

2156
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:14,480
because it takes work it really does um

2157
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,640
you know i'd love to go on the show and

2158
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,400
talk about the different steps of of

2159
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,480
once you create a project what happens

2160
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:22,640
next and how do you get it out there and

2161
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:25,840
i want you know um i recommend everyone

2162
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:27,520
who's out there some people might not

2163
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:31,840
even be on on facebook uh but you know

2164
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,480
create a facebook account go out and and

2165
01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:36,640
have your voice be heard um at least

2166
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:38,239
look what other people are doing there's

2167
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,760
no way there's anybody listening to an

2168
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:41,199
internet radio program that does not

2169
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:42,719
have a facebook account i would bet

2170
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:44,320
money that every single person listening

2171
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:45,840
to this has a facebook account but there

2172
01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:47,360
are other ways there's so many other

2173
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:49,600
ways i'm curious i would love for

2174
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:51,440
somebody to call in right now if they

2175
01:19:56,310 --> 01:19:54,080
don't have social media if you are not

2176
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:56,320
on social media at all if you're not on

2177
01:20:01,030 --> 01:19:58,880
facebook if you're not on twitter um but

2178
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:01,040
you are listening to the show

2179
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i would like to hear from you please

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two three five five eight eight eight

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nine one nine two three five five is the

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telephone yeah it proved me wrong i

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absolutely i would be blown away if if

2184
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:21,040
there are people out there that don't

2185
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:22,960
have social media and if you don't uh

2186
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:24,320
we'll mark and i will get you set up

2187
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:25,679
we'll get you an account and we'll get

2188
01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:27,600
you sharing truth vendors around

2189
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,199
yeah

2190
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:31,360
one thing i wanted to say to art is that

2191
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:34,239
uh every month we put out a newsletter

2192
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:36,000
it's brand new so we're really excited

2193
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:38,159
to get it out there and if you go and

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01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:40,159
create an account you'll automatically

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01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,080
be signed up for our newsletter you

2196
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,000
could also go directly to our website i

2197
01:20:48,629 --> 01:20:46,400
believe you can sign up without creating

2198
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,639
an account if if you wanted to

2199
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:49,760
why don't you want to do that though why

2200
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:50,960
wouldn't you want to have an account

2201
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:52,800
it's easy to sign up for an account

2202
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:55,280
absolutely and then you use apple watch

2203
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:57,040
to pay to donate yet is that something

2204
01:21:03,669 --> 01:21:01,280
we can do no no you can't do that

2205
01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:03,679
um but the the newsletter is super cool

2206
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:06,239
uh and what it is is we we highlight

2207
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:08,320
some of the coolest projects of the

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01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:10,400
month that have come through so you can

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01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:12,639
kind of see what people are working on

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01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:15,120
um do donate if you want share if you

2211
01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:18,000
want uh we have stories um different

2212
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,000
different news stories that come out

2213
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:22,960
about you know ufos or

2214
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,679
ghosts or paranormal something related

2215
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:28,320
to some of the projects that we have um

2216
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:31,040
and we also uh so far what we're doing

2217
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:32,560
with every newsletter is we're giving

2218
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:35,120
away free stuff and what that i heard

2219
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,719
about this free stuff i wish i could win

2220
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:39,120
it but i cannot yes so well you you

2221
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:44,790
i am a part of the organization

2222
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:46,800
therefore i am completely null and void

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01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:47,520
from

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01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:48,639
being able to

2225
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:50,800
it's not necessarily winning it's um

2226
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:53,679
it's sharing so basically uh we're

2227
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:56,000
creating a limited run of bumper

2228
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:57,440
stickers especially thunders bumper

2229
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:00,320
stickers um and they're kind of cool and

2230
01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:02,000
different looking they're in the process

2231
01:22:05,669 --> 01:22:04,239
of being created right now i believe

2232
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:05,679
on the air by the way is there a caller

2233
01:22:10,310 --> 01:22:08,080
on the air mj

2234
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,320
hello yeah hey do you not have social

2235
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,480
media

2236
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:15,040
i do not

2237
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:16,800
i win

2238
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:19,280
oh my god no

2239
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:23,030
charlie

2240
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:26,239
media and you're listening to the radio

2241
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,400
this is such a heartbreaking moment for

2242
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:30,880
me i'm so wrong i told you i'm not i

2243
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:33,360
don't know anything here's the kicker

2244
01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:35,199
i'm only 24.

2245
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:37,920
oh you no social media you know man you

2246
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:38,800
live

2247
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:41,280
a life of freedom in a lot of ways now

2248
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:43,040
now why did you step away from the world

2249
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:44,800
of social media did you have it and then

2250
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:47,360
you decided to to break away from it or

2251
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:49,360
did you uh never have it and never

2252
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:52,080
decide to get into it

2253
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:55,040
i did i had uh facebook but i just

2254
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,880
thought it was

2255
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,199
it's not all it's cracked up to be i

2256
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:01,360
don't think in what way

2257
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,159
gonna lead you away from what

2258
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:06,719
what's important i felt detached in a

2259
01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:08,320
weird way almost kind of like it was it

2260
01:23:18,070 --> 01:23:14,870
well yeah kind of i mean it just sucks

2261
01:23:19,910 --> 01:23:18,080
up your time in your day it's like

2262
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:19,920
go for a walk around the lake rather

2263
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:22,639
than sit around and talk about it i am

2264
01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:24,239
totally i'm totally with you on that on

2265
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:25,679
that it's about balance i think

2266
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:27,280
ultimately and i think that there are

2267
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:28,880
many good resources for something like

2268
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:31,199
facebook this being a prime example of

2269
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:33,440
one of them but i do absolutely agree

2270
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:36,400
that it is it is ruining a lot of like

2271
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:38,639
what makes us human

2272
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:41,040
yeah you know

2273
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:42,880
yeah it's it's really it's really cool

2274
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:45,040
i'm really glad that you called in um

2275
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:46,400
because

2276
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:48,320
you know there's there's people that are

2277
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:50,880
like social mediaholics and they're on

2278
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,000
it 24 7 and and talking about you know

2279
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,159
the pancakes they have breakfast taking

2280
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:58,400
a picture and i opened a new bar of soap

2281
01:24:02,629 --> 01:23:59,679
and i put it in the shower by the way i

2282
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:02,639
tweeted that right but you know why i do

2283
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:05,520
like it and why i i am on social media

2284
01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:08,400
is because um i like the other stuff

2285
01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:11,120
that's out there um you know i i don't

2286
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:13,600
think it's a great tool to necessarily

2287
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,400
uh

2288
01:24:18,629 --> 01:24:16,719
you know i don't i don't truly shouldn't

2289
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:18,639
be used to ego it should be it should be

2290
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,719
used to to feed the information and

2291
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:22,800
share it but the amount of people that

2292
01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:24,400
go out there and use it to feed their

2293
01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:25,679
own ego and say look at me look at me

2294
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:27,679
look at me it does become completely

2295
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:29,120
like suffocating a lot of the time i

2296
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:31,199
mean the amount of anger that i will

2297
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:32,800
experience in any given week by things

2298
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:34,080
people are posting i'm sitting to look

2299
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:36,080
at my wife going like what why why is

2300
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,400
this an important thing to be posted it

2301
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,560
is absolutely

2302
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:42,800
you know misused and abused but mark you

2303
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,560
are right like it is

2304
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:46,400
the world has changed it's so effective

2305
01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:48,480
permanently i mean as a result of social

2306
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,960
media because here here's the thing um

2307
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:52,560
and tell me if you agree with it it was

2308
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:54,239
charlie right

2309
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:55,920
um so charlie do you agree with this

2310
01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:57,760
it's like

2311
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:00,800
you know regardless of whether we decide

2312
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,520
to use it or not it's there and it's

2313
01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:05,520
going to be there and it's just going to

2314
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:07,360
keep being there unless we have some

2315
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:10,000
strange apocalypse happen to the world

2316
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:12,800
it's just going to keep growing so i say

2317
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,120
why not ride it and use it when you need

2318
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,280
to as far as like you know for your

2319
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:19,520
promotion for promoting things or to

2320
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:22,800
find new information um but then when it

2321
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:24,639
comes to you know

2322
01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:27,120
having it in your life you can choose to

2323
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:29,120
to not have it or you could back away or

2324
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:30,800
even have a fake account and then just

2325
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:32,320
use it for like

2326
01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:33,280
you know

2327
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:34,480
um

2328
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:36,960
finding out when when it shows on or or

2329
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:39,760
what new shows are out there do you uh

2330
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:41,040
what are your thoughts on that where do

2331
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:42,560
you get your news from charlie because i

2332
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:44,400
mean i will say that all of my news

2333
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:46,560
comes from social media like how do you

2334
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,840
get news now like not using facebook are

2335
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:51,280
there any other are you on twitter are

2336
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:52,840
you on anything

2337
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:56,880
else no i listen to public radio mostly

2338
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:58,239
because i know you're a smart guy

2339
01:26:01,270 --> 01:26:00,000
charlie see i like you

2340
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:01,280
i like that we have listeners like you i

2341
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:03,360
do agree with you guys

2342
01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:05,600
i think it's a great tool i think it's

2343
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:07,760
kind of like fast food it's awesome but

2344
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:10,800
people just use it yes yeah and it's

2345
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:13,199
like it's important to know how to to

2346
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:16,639
use it it really is well balanced

2347
01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:18,159
it's just self-discipline too it's just

2348
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:19,679
about balance and making sure that

2349
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,600
you're not sitting on it all day every

2350
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:23,280
day and being completely caught up in

2351
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:24,800
what's going on in the digital space and

2352
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:28,000
yes i do 100 agree with the fact that we

2353
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,560
are losing our abilities to be social we

2354
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,159
cannot look at each other in the eyes

2355
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:34,800
anymore as a society it's wild to me

2356
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:36,000
that the amount of detachment that

2357
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:38,080
social media has caused as a result

2358
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:39,920
totally agreeable

2359
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:42,239
so charlie art check this out i was

2360
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:44,000
walking down the street i was in

2361
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,000
berkeley and you know it's a big college

2362
01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:48,080
town over there and me and my friends we

2363
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:50,239
decided to do a social test and we

2364
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:53,360
decided to uh uh see you know if we

2365
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:55,120
could just make eye contact with people

2366
01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:56,719
walking down the street and it's a

2367
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:58,239
college town so you think people are

2368
01:27:00,870 --> 01:26:59,360
pretty friendly or whatever it's a

2369
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:00,880
liberal town too you're insane you're in

2370
01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:02,320
northern california i mean it doesn't

2371
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:04,719
get much more like like hey how you

2372
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:07,280
doing yeah exactly exactly and so i'm

2373
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:10,000
i'm walking down the street and uh i'm

2374
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,000
looking at people not creepy i'm not

2375
01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:14,239
like staring people down and smiling at

2376
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:16,560
them like all creepy like like you're on

2377
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:18,880
way too much prozac yeah right it's just

2378
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,199
you know walking down the street and uh

2379
01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:23,040
like looking at somebody and like

2380
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,480
nodding your head or smiling i don't

2381
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,400
like it they don't like it they they

2382
01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:28,080
don't like shooting them in the heart

2383
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:30,159
they keep their head down they look at

2384
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:31,920
their phone most people are on their

2385
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:33,520
phone regardless

2386
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:34,800
if you've been in an elevator in the

2387
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,719
last five years look around anytime

2388
01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:38,000
you're in an elevator every single

2389
01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:39,440
person is looking down at the screen you

2390
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:41,280
will not see i've not been on an

2391
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:42,480
elevator ride in the last five years

2392
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:43,840
where everyone is just not staring at

2393
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:46,400
their phones it's it is like it's

2394
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:47,920
phenomenal but you know this this

2395
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:50,080
conversation it's unfortunate the show's

2396
01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:51,520
ending now because this is a phenomenal

2397
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:53,199
conversation i might even pick this guy

2398
01:27:58,390 --> 01:27:55,600
up charlie quick question for you how

2399
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:58,400
did you find irn or how did you get um

2400
01:28:02,470 --> 01:27:59,840
how did you know that it was out there

2401
01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:02,480
and how did you come to find it

2402
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:04,639
i see what you're doing i found iron

2403
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:05,520
through

2404
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:11,520
radio stations and i found irn and

2405
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:14,320
it was one that i really liked and kind

2406
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:16,560
of stuck with it got the app

2407
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:19,120
and now it's part of my daily life but i

2408
01:28:23,390 --> 01:28:20,880
would say online radio is a form of

2409
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:23,400
social media as well i mean it's a very

2410
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:26,000
wide-ranging umbrella in terms of what

2411
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:27,600
the definition of social media is this

2412
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,679
is we this is social media by definition

2413
01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:31,440
right now this is media and we are

2414
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:34,639
interacting socially through it so

2415
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:36,159
i mean we're talking on the phone it's

2416
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:38,560
it's awesome um and i couldn't agree

2417
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:40,480
with you more i think irn i mean it's

2418
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:42,000
one of the reasons we wanted to come to

2419
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:43,360
the station is

2420
01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:45,760
i listen to tons of paranormal radio

2421
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,239
and and it's it's just so

2422
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,800
um it's so refreshing the shows that are

2423
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:52,239
on here you hear a lot of stuff that you

2424
01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:54,080
don't hear anywhere else

2425
01:28:57,510 --> 01:28:56,239
so i really appreciate it man i really

2426
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,520
appreciate that you're listening to us

2427
01:29:02,149 --> 01:28:59,040
and i really appreciate that you called

2428
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:02,159
in last week i i said i give a challenge

2429
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:04,480
that i dare you people to call in you

2430
01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:06,320
did and we got more two people all right

2431
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:07,679
so people call this what's next weeks

2432
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,960
what's the next no we got more than that

2433
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:10,480
what's next week's challenge

2434
01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:11,760
um

2435
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:13,280
next week's challenge charlie what's

2436
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:15,760
next week's challenge okay pass the buck

2437
01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:18,400
off to john uh we i think should up the

2438
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:21,520
ante from two callers to three or four

2439
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:23,520
there we go charlie's stepping it up and

2440
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:25,360
he's laying down the big game all right

2441
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:28,080
next next week four callers here on the

2442
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:30,560
truth funders radio program here on ir

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